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EXCERPT
Fast forward to 2025. Spiegelman joins Sacco in an unprecedented strip appearing first in the British-based Guardian, with its global audience prepared for difficult truths. Never Again and Again takes us on a visual journey with no pleasant moments and a good deal of horror. The comic is not framed around the conflict itself as much as around what the world will do and, most directly, what the artist should do.
From the opening panels, they make their own shared political position clear: Netanyahu and Israel are committing war crimes. But how to define these crimes? Sacco asks Spiegelman if he considers the current conflict to be a genocide. Spiegelman responds that he initially thought of it as “genocidish” and referred to it as “ethnic cleansing,” but after seeing images of starving Palestinian children, he felt the need to strengthen his language.
The two of them proceed to walk through frames, discussing details of the conflict and how their own work relates to it. Sacco asks Spiegelman the inevitable diasporic, non-Zionist Jew’s question: if he can imagine a world without Israel. Art responds that it is too late—the Jewish state already exists, and “there is no putting the toothpaste back in the bottle.” He then makes one of the comic’s most substantial points: that Maus “is not meant to be a recruitment tool for the IDF.” Spiegelman’s stance on this is clear.
Source:
https://www.counterpunch.org/2025/02/21/joe-sacco-and-art-spiegelman-answer-the-question-in-never-again-and-again/